Blog Discussion Group Six

Blog post due at 11:55pm on October 30 and comment due at 11:55pm on November 2.

Britain

  • Is the British prime minister more powerful than the president of the United States, or vice versa? Is Parliament prime minister more powerful than Congress, or vice versa?
  • How does the power of the prime minister compare with that of the U.S. president?
  • Given a choice between serving as the president of the United States or as the prime minister of Great Britain, which job would you prefer? Why?

Comments

  1. How does the power of the prime minister compare with that of the U.S. president?
    The Prime Minister (PM) is head of the government, not the state (the ruling Monarch is head of state), while the US president is both the head of Gov. and State. US President is voted for a elected, while the PM isn't technically voted in, citizens vote for a local member of the parliament that represents their hometown and then they all meet to discuss how to better things. The party with the most Member of parliament (MP), gets to choose who the PM is. In the UK, its the party that picks the PM, in the US its the people that pick the President. PM heads government proceedings and the President handles state and government proceedings.

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    1. I agree with your point that the President of the US is elected in and has more influence in that they are the head of both the government and state. I liked that you included how the PM is elected as this is a point that is important to the comparison. The PM and president have many differences in their leadership roles.

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  2. How does the power of the prime minister compare with that of the U.S. president?
    The prime minister is seen as the head of government while the United States president is the head of government as well as state. The president of the United States is elected as a representative of the entire country while the prime minister is a member of the legislature that in turn elects them to be its leader. The prime minister has the duties of setting the national agenda, appointing cabinet officials, and governing the party or parties (https://www.britannica.com/story/whats-the-difference-between-a-president-and-a-prime-minister). Bills cannot be passed without the consent of the president whereas the prime minister and other council of ministers decides upon the policies and bills.

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  4. How does the power of the prime minister compare with that of the U.S. president?
    Power to make laws: In the United States this power is split between the President and the lower (the House) and Upper (the Senate) chamber of Congress. Both chambers must pass a bill, and the President must sign it to make it an Act. If President uses veto, Congress can override the veto only with overwhelming (2/3 majority) support in each chamber. In fact normally the President and Congress belong to different parties and it thus acts as an impediment for him. The British PM is always the leader of the majority party and can get the legislation passed through both the Houses after the discussion.
    Removal from office: Besides resignation or death, the only way a President can be removed from office is by ‘Impeachment’, done by the House of Representatives. If a vote to confirm the charges passes, the President is ‘impeached’. The Senate will, then try the Impeachment, if a 2/3rd vote is achieved, in order to convict, which it never has in American history, the President is removed from office.
    The British Prime Minister continues in office as long as he enjoys the majority in the House. However, he must vacate his office, as soon as the confidence reposed in him by the majority is withdrawn.

    https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-and-similarities-in-powers-functions-and-election-processes-between-an-American-President-and-a-British-Prime-Minister

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  5. If given the choice to serve as either a prime minister or a president, I believe I would choose to become a prime minister. In my readings I found this article to help choose my opinion, "The president of America is frequently referred to as the world’s most powerful person. However, the federal structure of America has put restraints on the power of the president that do not occur in Great Britain, lead by a Prime Minister. The powers of Congress and the Supreme Court are used as a balance to the power a president might accrue in his time in office. The Constitution of America ties the president down as to what he can and cannot do". I think that the President seems to have more power when you generally think about it but the President is constrained by so many balances of power so their power is denied. As a PM you're selected by a smaller party and you seem to have more powers. Some powers include, "the power to appoint, reshuffle or dismiss cabinet ministers, the power to create new peers to the House of Lords, the power to give out honours, the power to appoint top civil servants, ambassadors, bishops and judges, the power to determine government business and Cabinet discussions/agendas, the power to withhold information from the Houses of Parliament if deemed necessary, the power to use the media via a lobby system, the power to terminate the life of a government and call a general election". It seems to appear that the PM has a lot of powers at his disposal. These are some reasons why I would chose to be a PM. (https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/american-politics/president-versus-prime-minister/)

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    1. While there are many great reasons to be a Prime Minister, I would much prefer to be hold office as the President. The main reason is that once elected, after the many years of hard work and aspiration, you will maintain that Presidential position for a minimum of four years. This is quite different from the conditions of the Prime Minister. Within that governing system, the PM can be removed from office at any point in time, given the required votes in the parliament. Even though the impeachment process in the United States is very similar, it usually will take an illegal and treasonous act to constitute the removal of office, even after congress has deemed the president impeached. This ultimately means that Congress has publicly stated they disagree with the presidents actions.

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    2. I agree with Matt, holding office as president would be much better than as a PM. You are in office a minimum of four years as president, and it takes doing quite a lot of illegal stuff to get impeached. I'm more inclined to think that a president has more power because the PM is only head of state while President is head of Gov and State, thus implying more power. I also like the election system for the president more than that of a PM.

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  6. Given a choice between serving as the president of the United States or as the prime minister of Great Britain, which job would you prefer? Why? Out of the two I would most definitely pick the job of The President of The United States of America. One reason is because it's my home country but the main reason is because challenge of the job. It seems as if nowadays the majority of the society is fed up with the government and especially the President. Although the President may not have as much power as the Prime Minister because of the supreme court, electoral college, congress, etc. the President still has a lot of power that they can use to make a good society. Some abilities that the president has is the ability to start war as the Commander in Chief of the armed forces, grant pardons for federal offenses, and probably my favorite the ability to sign or veto laws.

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    1. I like the fact you would take the challenge of being president of the US. I think that the task is only becoming more difficult because it's hard to please everyone. I agree that despite the restrictions I still feel as if the president has a lot of power. Also after the presentation Tuesday I feel as if it would be a little bit more job security if you were the president of the US.

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  7. There are many differences between the power of the president of the United States and that of Prime Minister of Britain. One main way is that the president is elected head of states and people of the nation, while the Prime Minister is the only head of the council. This is due to the way which the PM is elected. The citizens of Britain elect a representative for parliament, then that individual will vote for who should represent them. The power of the PM comes as it has the power to apply the decisions, legislation, which the Parliament has made, which greatly resembles the United States president’s role as head of the executive branch.
    http://dergipark.gov.tr/download/article-file/183464

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    1. Is the Prime Minister only the head of council? Or is he the head of more than just that? But I do agree with you that the President is the head of states and is elected by the people. Thats another different between the President and the Prime Minister, they have different ways of being elected. The PM is elected from Parliament and the President is elected by a vote from the people and electoral college.

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  8. Given a choice between serving as the president of the United States or as the prime minister of Great Britain, which job would you prefer?

    In my eyes, I would prefer to serve as the President of the United States for one major reason - the U.S. president is elected by the people as opposed to the British PM who is placed into power by the party itself. This means that the British PM must always create confidence in their governing, as a vote of no confidence can easily remove them from office. This is in contrast to the U.S. President, who is elected for a set number of years/terms and can only be removed from office for a very small set of reasons (impeachment, 25th amendment). Although the power of the U.S. President is limited compared to a British PM in many ways, charismatic leaders such as Donald Trump have shown that mere bravado can be used to sway both the populace and dissenting members of the legislature to support their agenda. In the U.S. a leader with enough will (and support) can achieve things most would say is impossible. I can only imagine a U.S. leader with the support and love of the people could do – Someone like Mao Zedong, born in the U.S, would truly be a force to be reckoned with as he would capture the hearts and minds of the people and sway the legislature to accomplish much. Yes, as an American citizen and aware of today’s political climate, perhaps I could run for President and sway our electorate in the same fashion. Perhaps.
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    https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/american-politics/president-versus-prime-minister/

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